Talk:Edward the Confessor
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Rank?
[edit]What does "Rank: 21st" mean? It sounds like monarch Top Trumps. Marnanel 18:11, Apr 25, 2004 (UTC)
- 21st king of England since Egbert of Wessex (who wasn't a king of England, but he was the first West Saxon king to dominate England). A pretty poor system, if you ask me. Everyking 18:46, 25 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Someone who knows where 'the Confessor' came from should add it to the article. -- Kizor 08:34, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- done shsilver
- That was fast. Thank you.
Tom a Beck
[edit]Where is our old friend? Surely THIS is a large missing block here...
That's because Thomas a Becket doesn't turn up in the history books till the reign of Henry II. His presence in this article would be an anachronism.
Not the first Edward
[edit]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_monarchs
The Confessor was actually the third Saxon king by the name of Edward.
- Fixed. Thanks for pointing that out. Remember you can fix errors yourself if you like, even if you're anonymous. Everyking 19:15, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Only Royal Saint?
[edit]"Edward the Confessor was the first Anglo-Saxon and the only king of England to be canonised," is not Charles I St. Charles the Martyr? http://skcm.org/
- The Charles I of England article has no mention of any canonization. Angus McLellan (Talk) 00:20, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
- Edmund the Martyr? Hmm... guess he's just East Anglia. Edward the Martyr though, is considered a saint, and was king of England. Ealdgyth - Talk 00:25, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
- But neither Edmund nor Edward the Martyr was canonised. Dudley Miles (talk) 10:32, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
- Edmund the Martyr? Hmm... guess he's just East Anglia. Edward the Martyr though, is considered a saint, and was king of England. Ealdgyth - Talk 00:25, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
- That'll be equipollent canonization I think. (Equipollent? New one on me.) So, Edward the Martyr too. Ealdgyth wins! Angus McLellan (Talk) 14:38, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
- I've always seen it as "pre-congregation" canonization - it's pretty common with pre-1000 saints. Ealdgyth - Talk 15:59, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
I have just caught up with this. I had never heard of equipollent canonization either. The article on it links to [1] which says that it is nomination as a Doctor of the Church. I think Ealdgyth said this applies to Bede, but presumably not to Edward the Martyr. So did he have an equipollent or "pre-congregation" canonization, and should the articles on both Edwards be revised accordingly? I am very unclear how long ago someone had to live before (and whether) it is meaningful to say they were not canonised. According to the List of canonizations the first one was in 993 and canonised Ulrich of Augsburg, who died in 973, just before Edward the Martyr, and in 1441 Henry VI unsuccessfully attempted to get Alfred the Great canonised. Dudley Miles (talk) 13:56, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
- I believe there was an attempt to get Henry III (or was it VI?) canonized at one point. Ealdgyth - Talk 16:47, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
- His widow, Eleanor, certainly hoped to get Henry III canonized, but his son (Edward) didn't believe in the reported miracles, which rather put the dampener on the whole affair... Hchc2009 (talk) 19:06, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, I know I'm joining a 12 year old discussion here, but the Orthodox Church venerates many early English kings as saints, including Alfred the Great. Mozartnut (talk) 22:02, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
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