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Bon Jovi has 16 studio albums. They are all listed but the General section still says 15 albums since they put one out recently and that number was apparently not updated. Justinpatton (talk) 21:44, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed Thank you, - FlightTime (open channel) 22:07, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hair metal

@Bryan1518: The musical style section says "The band's first four albums were described as glam metal. Their first two albums used a heavier mixture of glam metal and hard rock while their follow ups, Slippery When Wet and New Jersey, featured a more commercialized mixture of glam metal and hard rock. They shed the glam metal sound by their fifth studio album, Keep the Faith" - so listing glam metal as "early" is appropriate --FMSky (talk) 19:08, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I understand that but Keep The Faith still has some glam metal influences. For example, the single from Keep The Faith called I'll Sleep When I'm Dead has the glam metal label listed on it's article page and it has a source. Also, do not removed the glam metal label on the musical style section since it has sources. It's been there for years, why take it out now? I think that for us to settle this once and for all, can we move the glam metal label to the third spot behind arena rock and hard rock? That would seem more appropriate. Bon Jovi are definitely an iconic hair metal band. Their most successful albums and singles are hair metal, it doesn't make sense to put early in the sense that the genre is irrelevant to them. It isn't. Their most successful decade is still the 80s, them going country rock in 2007 does not neglect the fact that they were a big important hair metal band in the 80s whose frontman signed Cinderella and Skid Row, two other hair metal acts to major record labels. ( Bryan1518 (talk) 19:17, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Its not removed. Read the 2nd sentence onwards of that section. Even if we count the fifth album you mentioned, that was also already 35 years ago... What do you think about putting it in 4th spot but without the "early"? --FMSky (talk) 19:23, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"Their most successful decade is still the 80s, them going country rock in 2007 does not neglect the fact that they were a big important hair metal band in the 80s".. yes, thats the point: 1980s. that means early --FMSky (talk) 19:26, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for replying back, I definitely appreciate those replies. On this topic, it's interesting because Bon Jovi's most successful album in the 90s was a greatest hits compilation called Crossroad. Crossroad featured their glam metal hits of the 80s. So technically, their most successful release from the 90s was still glam metal in some way. I don't see anything wrong with the glam metal label being second but if it's third, behind arena rock, it's also fine as well. Putting glam metal last or saying that it's early is trying to hide their hair metal roots which let's be honest, I think most rock fans consider Bon Jovi to be hair metal in some ways. There is nothing to hide from Bon Jovi being hair metal because that's what they were in the 80s and for a little time in the early 90s. Also, their most successful release from the 90s was glam metal as well since it features their 80s glam metal hits. Think about it, if someone put thrash metal early for Metallica, it wouldn't make sense, right? So why are we still discussing whether the hair metal label should be hidden or not, especially since Slippery and New Jersey albums topped the album charts, and Slippery went 15x last year by the RIAA. Their hair metal label should not be hidden, that's all that I'm trying to say. ( Bryan1518 (talk) 19:36, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The best comparison that I could compared Bon Jovi with are The Bee Gees in this topic. The Bee Gees as a group released albums in the 80s. Those albums were not disco, yet if you go to the Bee Gees article, the disco label is not put as early. The disco label for the Bee Gees is not hidden. So why should the glam metal label be hidden for Bon Jovi? Both disco and glam metal were the fads of their times. Disco for the 70s, glam metal for the 80s. The Bee Gees most likely moved past disco by the 80s, however, I still recognized them as a disco act and I will never put disco early for their article. I recognized that The Bee Gees are a disco act regardless if they moved past that in the later decades after the 70s.( Bryan1518 (talk) 19:57, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]